GrokBot vs Hermes vs OpenClaw

Eric Siu’s take: Grok Bot is the user-friendly, cloud-hosted version of the agent desk — not a reason to uninstall Hermes or Codex, a reason beginners stop bouncing off OpenClaw

← AI Agents  ·  GrokBot overview  ·  Hermes  ·  OpenClaw  ·  Eric Siu skills  ·  Company brain  ·  GrokBot X loop  ·  SEO loop

Source

Eric Siu (@ericosiu) — x.com/ericosiu/status/2091952398256529485 (24 Aug 2026). Headline: “Grok Bot CRUSHES Hermes and OpenClaw.” Attached walkthrough ~16 minutes. Chapters on the tweet: first agent, cold start, SEO/content, revenue signals + outreach.

He was an early OpenClaw user and still uses Hermes (desktop + third-party Hermex on iPad) and Codex a lot. The honest frame is add Grok Bot to the stack, not burn the others. Closing pitch is SingleBrain (Slack/Teams company brain) — same as his company brain talk. Steal the desk design; the CTA is a CTA.

Video

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One-sentence TL;DR

Grok Bot is the same autonomous-agent idea as Hermes/OpenClaw with connectors and cloud computers, but the on-ramp is “export MD from Codex and drop it in” instead of a Mac Mini, DGX Spark, and connector anxiety — so most people who never finished OpenClaw will start here for the next 6–12 months (his bet).

What he actually showed

Cold start

New Grok Bot looks empty and anxious. Don’t invent the desk in the blank UI. Ask whatever harness already knows you (Claude, ChatGPT, Grok, especially Codex): “based on how I work, make empty files for the autonomous agents I should spin up.” He says almost all of his bots started as MD files from other harnesses. Then paste them in. Connect Gmail, Calendar, Drive first — not the farm-everything toggle. Then GitHub, Linear, Slack, Gong, Stripe, Clay, Mixpanel, CRM, browser/computer-use as you need them. More queryable company → more useful bot.

AEO / SEO bot (last mile is human)

Pulls Gong, X, YouTube, internal huddles, GSC, GA, then drafts TOFU/MOFU/BOFU via ClickFlow MCP + WordPress “WP vibe” MCP. Haley (editor) called output ~8/10. He will not auto-publish slop. Pattern: human at the start (taste, brief), agent in the middle, human at the end. Marketing needs more taste than “generate 40 posts.”

Revenue / sales bots (nothing sends until you approve)

  • Revenue signal radar — weekday rank of expansion / install / closed-lost revival with evidence and a draft. Dummy HubSpot-style queue.
  • Sponsorship deal desk — he gets 20–30 inbound asks/week; bot quotes typical price and he reviews ~weekly. Claims a live Semrush negotiation in the queue.
  • Outreach command center — three workers: warm SingleBrain outbound, sponsorship, stalled-deal revival. High-level what’s-happening view across threads.
  • Pre-call intelligence — lead dossier, not just “notes”: size, decision, angle, prior calls.
  • Founder content radar — morning scan of X/web on agents, marketing, recruiting, revops. He live-adds “Matt van Horn last 30 days” as a skill.
  • Marketing analyst — HubSpot + Ramp + Gong: keep/cut/spend. Dummy output: organic creating pipeline, paid contractors not, close is the bottleneck not more ads.
  • Outreach agent — weekday queue from HubSpot/Gmail/calendar, hard safety gates, score + draft, stop. Brand reputation is too expensive to yellow-light send.

Fat skills, thin harness — same thesis as his skills list and Hermes operating layer. Governance/permissions were the pain when implementing Hermes for clients; he thinks a hosted Grok Bot + company brain is easier to sell into Slack/Teams.

Vs Hermes vs OpenClaw (his scorecard, not a bench)

Grok Bot Hermes OpenClaw
Setup Cloud, MD handover from Codex, connectors in-product Still uses it (desktop + Hermex iPad). Implementations hit permission/security questions Paved the movement; Mac Mini / DGX / crash / context-bleed anxiety
Hosting Each bot in a cloud environment You still think about devices Self-host tax
His 6–12 mo guess Where people who never set up the others will start; SpaceX/xAI shipping speed Raised money, still shipping, still impressive, still in his stack “Hasn’t really improved in the last few months”; resourcing; OpenAI deal is “kind of weird”

He does not say delete Hermes. “You might as well add this.” Claude/ChatGPT may ship their own. Reply on the tweet: some people still call Grok Bot too expensive and stay on Hermes.

ASR glossary

You hear Almost certainly
code X / CodexCodex (ChatGPT coding harness)
HermexThird-party Hermes mobile/iPad app
open clause / open call / open causeOpenClaw
cloud / chatClaude / ChatGPT
AEOAnswer-engine optimization (LLM search)
fat skills, thin hardnessfat skills, thin harness
Grokwatt / GrokbotGrok Bot
the be single brain.comsinglebrain.com

How this maps here

Eric This site
Hermes as operating layer, still in the stack /hermes · /ericsiu
OpenClaw on a Mini is the old on-ramp /openclaw
Company brain in Slack/Teams /companybrain · /hqforwork
SEO last-mile human, GSC in the loop /seoloop
3 X accounts / social loop /grokbotx · /grokbotsocial

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Primary: @ericosiu — Grok Bot vs Hermes vs OpenClaw

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ASR of the ~16-minute screen share. Speech artifacts preserved.

So the question is, is GrokBot actually better than Hermes and OpenClaw?

So there's a lot to go through here and I'm going to show you my screen.

I'm going to walk through my GrokBot setup so you can determine which one's better for you.

I'm going to go through the pros and the cons as well, but I want to show you how I'm using it from a business standpoint to drive more revenue for my companies.

Don't get me wrong.

I was an OpenClaw user from the early days.

I was a Hermes user from the early days and I still use Hermes quite a bit and OpenClaw has kind of changed and I'll go into that in a little bit and we're going to talk about the key benefits that you should be looking into and why GrokBot might have just dethroned Hermes and OpenClaw.

This is my GrokBot here and so everyone knows GrokBot basically is a autonomous agent.

Grok's version, XAI's version, SpaceX's version of an autonomous agent.

So they've seen what Hermes can do.

They've seen what OpenClaw can do, but they want to make a more user-friendly version of this, right?

And so you can see that there's different plugins you can add here, different connectors that you can add here.

So just, I think for, for early days, for, for simple connectors here, just add in your Google drive, your Gmail, your Google calendar.

Now all of this, I mean, make sure that, you know, you're not giving away to farm here where it can just do whatever it wants.

You can add a granola, a bunch of plugins that I from a business owner standpoint am looking at, right?

So GitHub, linear, what we use for project management, right?

And then if you use Asana, great.

Stripe is in here, Clay's in here, Mixpanel's in here.

So the more connectors you feed an autonomous agent like this, the more powerful it becomes.

Slack is good as well, right?

Gong is helpful because it can pull from customer calls, sales calls, internal calls that you're having.

So the thing that you want to do with your company too is you want to make it more queryable, right?

The more queryable you make it, the more searchable you make it, the more useful this type of stuff becomes for your company.

Right?

And then you can have browser based browse for a computer use.

You know, your CRM is going to be helpful to X as well to, to, um, you know, adjust content that we're putting out.

And so one of the issues with, with a grok bot is, is when you're logging into it, it's, um, you can see that you have to make these new bots, right?

But when you, when you make this new bot, there's a cold start problem over here.

You don't really know where to start, right?

It looks like it's trying to onboard me right now, but as a new user, if you've never used this stuff before, you're probably at a standstill.

And so what I would say is if you're using cloud or if you're using chat, you could be using grok and whatever it is that you're using.

I would just say that because it has memory on how you work already, it understands how you work already.

You want to think about what makes the most sense right now.

Okay.

Hey, based on our working style, I want to make an autonomous agent.

Can you make some empty files for me to spin up these autonomous agents?

That's what you would do.

And that's literally what I did with a lot of these, these bots.

Actually, I think all of these bots over here are MD files, created from my other harnesses that I use quite a bit.

So I use code X a lot.

And I think code X is the best harness right now that the desktop app, there's just so much that you can do with it.

And I continue to use Hermes.

So I use the Hermex, which is the, the mobile app that is a third party one.

I use it for my iPad and then I use the Hermes desktop app.

And so I'm just able to get a lot done, right?

This right here, it could just got set up.

Like, what do you want me on?

That causes a bit of anxiety.

Um, what I would say is you just want to, you want to cut over your stuff, you know, make MD files, and then you can work with it here.

Right?

And so what I've done is I'm going to show you a couple of examples here, and I'm going to talk through the benefits of this.

I'm going to talk through the downsides as well.

And I'm going to talk about where I think all this stuff is going, right?

Because open claw really paved the way for this movement.

And I think this stuff is going to get more and more mature over time.

And we want to make more and more of this accessible to the average person, make it very easy to set up and then kind of go from there.

Okay.

I'm just going to pull in this AEO SEO bot that we have, and I'm going to show you some, some output here.

Okay.

I am asking it to pull a lot of my content from gong from X, from YouTube calls that I'm having internally, maybe even huddles that I'm having internally, or maybe content that I ingest into this thing.

And then I want to figure out top of the funnel, middle of the funnel, bottom of the funnel content to be creating, uh, from an AEO SEO standpoint, right?

Cause I want to drive more traffic.

I want to drive more leads.

What this does is it also will pull in other connectors that we have.

It should look at a Google search console.

It should look at our Google analytics.

So the more data that you have, it's, it's ingesting content spikes, content ideas.

And then from the data that we have already, it can, it can do research.

It can think there.

And then from there it can leverage our ClickFlow API, which is our tool that we use for generating content.

So there's the API and MCP for it, which you can use for free by the way.

And then because we're still on WordPress right now, we leverage an MCP, which is called a WP vibe.

And so we, we, we combine these things together and then from there we're able to output content that is like Haley is, is one of the editors on our team.

And she says this content's already eight out of 10.

And I'm like, because her standards are really high.

I'm like, that's pretty damn good.

Right.

And so if something we can get to eight out of 10 and then you have a human handle the last mile, that's going to be really good content.

What, what I don't want right now from a SEO standpoint is publishing a bunch of stuff.

You're a bunch of slop, right?

Which is what a bunch of other companies are doing right now.

I think the you have to have a human in a loop in the beginning, middle you let the agent do the work.

And then at the end, the human comes back in.

Right.

I think when it comes to marketing, you need to have a lot more taste.

And so when it comes to, to, to thinking about how a Grok bot works when it comes to business, when it comes to driving revenue, I'm like, okay, I was already using this in Codex, but this was much easier to set up.

Right.

So let's talk about some of the benefits real quick.

Um, so I just show you this workflow.

Clearly it's, it's a simple workflow, but it was easy, very easy for me to set up.

Just telling you about that, you're making the empty file from whatever harness you're using right now, bringing it in here.

That makes it very easy to set up because you're just making a handover document.

Okay.

When you work with your other harnesses, they are aware of Grok bot.

They're aware of how this works.

And so you should say, Hey, based on how I work, what agents do you recommend me creating?

And what is he would be the most unique cases use cases based on connectors that we have.

And then you can connect us.

Right.

And so the issue before with like a Hermes or an open clause, it's, it's open source, right?

It, there's a lot of anxiety.

Like do you put it on another device?

You put it on DGX Spark, you put it on a Mac mini, right.

Um, you know, what do you do from like a, from a connector standpoint, and some connectors are more complex to set up than other connectors.

Right.

And oftentimes open claw or Hermes, you're going to run into issues where it crashes, or there's going to be context bleed into other chats and things like that.

And so you don't need to worry about troubleshooting.

And I think for the beginner right now, who's been looking at open claw or Hermes, you're like, I want to get into, but I don't have the time.

Now is the time that you can actually do something like this.

I think that's the biggest benefit from an ease standpoint to set this up.

I think this is way better than like a Hermes or, or open claw.

And I think from a reliability standpoint, this is going to get a lot better too.

And the fact that you can spin this up on different, um, these are, each of these bots are on in the cloud environment, right?

So you don't have to worry about self hosting it or anything like that.

And I think, um, that's going to ultimately save you a lot of time.

The barrier to entry to setting these up is like, there's a lot of, uh, you know, anxiety, right?

Enterprises can't quite set it up.

And even though Microsoft has, you know, their version of like an open claw and like a Hermes and the same thing with Nvidia too, they have these, these enterprise versions that are a lot more secure, you know, still like, you don't want them to want to worry about managing this stuff.

Right.

And so I think Grokbot does have a good situation here in terms of getting ahead of the market, in terms of having that one autonomous agent that might be more enterprise ready versus the other ones at this point.

So I'm looking at this right now, this AESU bot that I have, cause I'm asking where it can ingest content from.

Right.

So it's telling me what, what can be done here and it's saying what the blockers are.

Then I can just tell it to, to let's do it.

Right.

While I do it, I'm going to show you some of the other bots that I have just so that I can give you some ideas, but I want to show you the output that comes from this, this, this agent, right?

This took from one of the templates that we had already.

So don't mind a design because once we start to push this to our CMS, it will integrate the design guidelines that we have.

But what I want you to pay attention to is you look at this table of contents over here.

So there's 23 different points, right?

So BBM grows can do this.

Okay.

Search calls can do.

Okay.

Single grain.

So this is more of like a services page for us on the single grain side.

What's an SEO agency engagement at single grain.

This is a very detailed page.

Okay.

And it's using ClickFlow to draft this and it's understanding what our, our writer guidelines are.

There's internal links and things like that at the end.

And so, you know, there's a nice little touch with this little bar at the top as well.

And so there's a lot we can do to play with this, right?

And we have skills where we can add in the call to actions and things like that.

But Grokbot put this together and I'm like, this is already pretty damn good.

And it's only going to get better.

Right.

And the way we think about doing this, all this stuff right now is just, we give people control of skills and then ultimately these bots can run these skills.

And then we're ultimately able to do a lot more for the clientele that we work with.

Right.

So here's a revenue signal radar bot.

And so every weekday it will rank the handful of current quarter revenue moves that are worth making across expansion, install deals and close loss revival with evidence and a draft.

And nothing goes out until you approve it.

Okay.

This is great because you think about all the deals that you might've lost before.

Maybe expansion opportunities, maybe there's deal expansion or sorry, lookalike expansion off of maybe ICP fits that a reach out that you haven't spoken with, or maybe people that reach out for discovery call that you haven't spoken with or people that responded to your cold outbound that you haven't connected with.

Right.

And so this will give you an idea.

And this is dummy data over here.

So this is, you can see, Oh you know, here's the priority.

So this one's stalled out right now.

This is a home goods brand awaiting signature.

You know, here's the priority level and the next step, here's what's going to happen.

Right.

And so it can give you basically this queue and it can draft emails for you to then send out.

So imagine if a salesperson is running, this is connected to their Gmail, disconnected to their HubSpot, they have read access only, and then maybe they can draft.

Maybe you, you allow the grok bot to draft.

That becomes very powerful.

Right.

And so everyone kind of gets their own version of autonomous agent.

And that's always been my vision.

Right.

But the only issue is with the Hermes, for example, when we do these implementations for clients, it's like, okay, well what about permission?

What about governance?

What about security and all these things?

And so I think if you have something like this, this is good.

We ultimately, we make a company brain where people can use it to, to do a lot of the, do a lot of the work.

Right.

And then we have a lot of the, the workflows.

It's talking about the, the concept known as fat skills, thin hardness, right?

You want to have very deep skills and you can combine them with each other and kind of go from there.

So that is the revenue skill radar.

And those of you that have been watching my stuff, I talk about this sponsorship piece already.

There's a sponsorship piece over here, which there's a, there's a deal that our sponsorship bot is actually negotiating with Semrush right now.

And, and you know, it's actually not, it's, it's, it's something that I'll look through like once a week and basically it'll send out like an email to these people.

Right.

It sends out like an initial email to people cause I get like 20 to 30 sponsorship requests per week and I really just want the bot to deal with them and it deals with, with, with, with people really well in terms of, Hey, here's our, here's our typical price.

Are you going to accept it or not?

And kind of go from there.

Right.

And then we kind of pick and choose the deals that we want to take.

So if you're managing that for clients, if you're managing influencer deals, things like that, a sponsorship deal, deal desk definitely works.

And then this one is outreach command center, right?

So what this one does is it has three worker agents that handle sourcing for warm, single brain outbound sponsorship and stall deal revival.

So this is like a command center that's going to show you what's happening on a high level.

So you know what's happening, right?

Cause oftentimes you're working with so many different threads that you don't know what's happening.

And then this one's helpful too.

You have a pre-call intelligence.

And so a lot of people will talk about having this notes, like these pre-call notes.

Right.

But what's interesting to me is if you can actually create a almost like a lead dossier first, right?

So, Hey, here's what the size of the company is.

Here's the decision required.

You know, here's the recommended actions.

Here's what the angle should be based on the products and services that you offer.

Here's any calls that we might've had with this person.

So this can get better and better.

Right.

And so the way I look at this, like what I just said was Grok bot is good from a ease of setup and reliability standpoint out the gate.

And it's only going to get better over time.

Too.

This is a little bare bones to start with, but it's going to get better over time.

You're going to be able to compound it.

And I would also say that if you're already using an open claw or a Hermes, I would say, and also you're using cloud code and you're using code X as well, which is chat GPT.

Basically you're using all these things.

You're you're using open source models.

Okay.

That's all great, but you might as well add this to the stack.

And so I don't look at this as it's got to be this or this, right?

Cause this is not that hard to set up.

And I look at this as something that is going to empower more users to come online and more people to use this.

Right.

Here's another one over here.

Founder content radar.

Okay.

And this one, this one, like I, I think I asked it to give me ideas that I can make this into a bot.

And so here's what this does.

Okay.

Okay.

I'm Eric's founder, content radar.

Every morning I scan X in the web for conversations, heating up around AI agents, marketing, recruiting a revenue ops and turn to stronger signals into regional ideas.

Hey, can you add Matt van Horn's last 30 days skill to this?

So when you do this, it becomes even more powerful, right?

So let's see if this even works.

This is just a very basic command because I know there's a last 30 day skill that's, that's very powerful.

And you can see, Oh, here's the ranked ideas over here.

Here's the confidence.

Oh, what is this going to expire?

So basically this gives me ideas to attack from a pillar content standpoint and go to go from there.

And so I'm just going to let this work right now.

Okay.

I'm, I'm, I'm on it.

I'm finding a Matt van Horn's last 30 days skills unfolded into a morning run.

So imagine like if it's very easy to add skills into here, which it should be great.

Right.

And then now I'm looking at this AEO SEO one over here and you know, what granola is rich.

Okay, great.

What is it done over here?

Services read is next.

Okay.

Okay.

Go ahead and produce these in parallel.

Right.

Let's just see what happens here.

By the way, I'm typing, you can be dictating this.

You can just be yapping to this all day and you should be able to get a lot more stuff done.

Right.

And so it's recommending that it should attack these pieces of content.

I'm like, okay, just show me what you got.

Let's go from there.

Right.

And so here it found the last 30 days.

It searches X Reddit other service that ranks by actual engagement installing into radar.

Now.

Okay.

Easy.

You see how easy that is.

And this, this is what blows my mind.

You know, I've been working like this in jet since January.

I'm like, I'm surprised the world hasn't woken up to this yet.

I think it's because it wasn't so it wasn't as accessible, right?

It wasn't easy to, to kind of put this stuff together and for, for people to use.

Now it's becoming a lot more accessible.

Okay.

So here's another example of another bot.

This is a marketing analyst bot that you can use, right?

So this is, this is dummy data over here.

So sample output.

So this is a marketing analyst bot.

So it connects HubSpot ramp and gong, and then tells you what's actually creating pipeline versus what's just costing money and where the next dollar should go.

Not a campaign dashboard.

This is a keep cut spend call.

Your CFOs would like this, right?

So sample output, faint company, fake numbers, find a screen shares, keep cut.

So verdict organic pages are creating pipeline paid media contractors are not closed as the bottleneck, not more ads.

Okay.

What's converting.

Okay.

You're, you're converting over here.

Organic search is credited with, with 90 contacts, AI referrals here.

So this helps from a marketing standpoint at a high level, right?

Oh, what this all costs last month.

Okay.

These are all contractor invoices, a software cost over here, right?

Cut now this 14 K on this, these, a undetributed contractors, whatever.

So again, dummy data over here, right?

But you, you could kind of understand where, where this is going.

Okay.

So I'm gonna give you another bot idea here.

Outreach agent.

Okay.

So I build a weekday queue of warm, single brain and prospects.

Okay.

So I read HubSpot, Gmail and calendar apply hard safety gates, score draft each email, and then stop.

Nothing sends them to you approved.

So that, that part is important, right?

There's too much brand reputation where you just let this yellow every day, at least for right now.

So that's what I would say, in my opinion, this is something that could displace Hermes and open claw in terms of mind share because of the ease of setup and the reliability.

And you can just see also the resource that you're going to put behind it because of space X, right?

And so Hermes, they raise money for it.

They have resources, right?

Open claw, even though they have a deal with open AI and it's kind of weird or like a nonprofit or whatever, I think they're kind of falling apart, right?

Like open call hasn't really improved in the last few months or so.

So I'll say open cause it's behind, even though they're kind of number one.

And I think it's a resourcing thing, right?

Cause opening it has a lot of stuff to deal with.

And you have Hermes, which they've raised money, right?

And I think they're certainly very reliable and they're shipping a lot.

And I think they're very impressive.

But when you put the power of space X behind this and you look at how quickly they ship, I would say that you definitely, like for most people, people are going to be wanting to turn to Grokwatt.

That's my opinion for the next six to 12 months or so.

And we'll see how this all plays out.

And maybe it is that Claude and chat should be launched our own versions of this, but I think this is a very impressive first go at it.

And my guess is that if you have never, never set up a Hermes or open call before, you're going to go with this first, by the way, if you're enjoying this right now, we build revenue generating company brains that help with AEO SEO that help with outbound that help with ad creative scaling and a whole host of other things.

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End of transcript. Source: @ericosiu (video)

Field notes · August 2026 · Add to the stack · Human last mile · Nothing sends until you approve · @ericosiu

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